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Trout in the South Can a native Northwesterner find happiness fly fishing in the Southland? Can he avoid the local bias? Uncle Fuzzy travels to North Carolina. by Uncle Fuzzy 

 
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#555460 - 03/24/09 10:31 AM Warning! Blog Contains Offensive Material
Uncle Fuzzy Moderator Offline

Warning! The following blog contains language that may be offensive to some readers! Discretion is advised!

 

Okay, let's get the bad language out of the way right now:

  1. Carp
  2. Bait

If those two words didn't make you swoon, then feel free to read on.

Why Carp, and Why Bait?

I want to point out that the only non-fly rods I now own are used for carp, jetty fishing, and surf perch. And I don't do much of any of those things. Really. Honest. I sold all my other bait/spinning gear and donated the proceeds to charity. Really. Honest.

However, my winter fishing experimental ace-in-the-hole for this year was bait fishing for carp on the Willamette. The theory went like this:

  1. It was close to home.
  2. Itcould be done in a couple of otherwise idle hours.
  3. It should work when the local steelhead rivers are blown-out.
  4. I'd learn a little more about carp habits, and that knowledge would valuable when it was time to fly fish for them.

But winter carping didn't work out. I couldn't find the buggers when the water temp got below the mid-40s. Perhaps they were all on the bottom waiting for warmer water.

So last Saturday afternoon I had a few free hours and decided to go to the Willamette and see if things had changed since my last (futile) carp attempt three weeks ago. Although Saturday was forecast to be on the cool side, it had been warmish the day before and I reasoned that the water would be above 45 degrees by midday. Besides, spring is mating season for carp, and some of those randy devils might be eating, among other activities.

I put my boat in at Cedar Oak, which is less than ten minutes from my house, and turned on the fish finder. Motoring slowly over some likely spots revealed a few fish of indeterminate species. Hmmm; could be carp. Might be promising.

Carp Tactics the English Way

My carp fishing is done in the English style:

  1. Rod perpendicular to the bank and resting on two bank sticks (high tech versions of forked sticks).
  2. 12-foot rod and spinning reel loaded with 8-pound mono
  3. Split shot on a dropper six inches above size-4 Octopus hook
  4. Bread crust for bait
  5. Cast out, let the bait and weight sink, then tighten the line so the rod tip has a slight bend
  6. Pull some line off the reel and clip it in a bite indicator. The bite indicator is heavy enough to hold the line down, but light enough to let the line move when you have a bite.

Bites are detected in two ways: either the rod tip twitches, and the bite indicator goes up; or the rod tip straightens and the bite indicator goes down. This latter happens if a fish takes the bait and moves towards you. Sometimes I use an elegant English-style balsawood float.

I learned this style of fishing from my English friend, Martin James. He gave me the rod and the floats. The rest of the gear I ordered off the internet because no store in Oregon carries it ("A float? We have these big plastic red-and-white bobbers. Bank sticks? Can't you just cut up an old forked tree branch?")

By Northwest standards, my carp fishing is pretty fancy-pants. By European standards, it's kindergarten stuff. Carp are the number one sportfish in Europe. The Brits get way more sophisticated than my fishing, but their carp are far more educated and harder to catch.

For bait, I use crusty French bread, preferably little baguettes. There's a trick to getting the right amount of bread and to putting it on the hook. If you're really interested, I'll tell you how to do this and show photos of my rig, but I figure I've already used up all the goodwill and patience I'm entitled to today.

The Bread of Life . . . and of Carp

I've tried several different baits for carp, but there's no question that bread works best. You see, bread floats. So the weight is on the bottom, and the bait is suspended about six inches off the bottom, right at nose and eyeball level for a cruising carp.

And last Saturday, there must have been a pretty good herd of them cruising around in front of me. In a short space of time I hooked seven and landed six. A couple were in the five-six pound range, three were 9-12 pounds, and one was about 15 pounds. I had far more bites than that; I'm not used to bait fishing, so it took a while to get into the swing of things and learn when to set the hook and when to leave it alone.

More Action than the Salmon Anglers

When I got back to the boat ramp I talked to one of the salmon anglers who was taking his boat out. He said ODFW checked something like forty boats and maybe six salmon had been caught. The salmon guys think I'm pretty weird for chasing carp ("You can't eat 'em!'), but at least 34 anglers didn't put any more meat on the table than I did, and I had a lot more fun. I shouldn't get smug when that happens. But I do.

Next Steps

Now that I know the carp are active again I will start fly fishing for them in earnest. I've got a good flat on the Willamette about a ten-minute run from the boat ramp, plus a couple of promising spots to check out. And I know some really promising places on the Columbia that I discovered last fall. April 1, Sauvie Island opens up again, and that's the mother lode of carp.

I figure I need to get at it before the spring runoff starts and the water turns cold and turbid. You'll hear more, and I maybe I can use the "F" word instead of the "B" word.

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aka Scott Richmond

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#555564 - 03/24/09 09:45 PM Re: Warning! Blog Contains Offensive Material [Re: Uncle Fuzzy]
Truco7mateo Offline
Oh, that settles it Fuzzy, you have to come and participate in the 2nd annual Gold Cup carp tourney now! You are veteran carper now and need to show us "Ideeho" boys how to get it done.

PS, please bring bread flies, baguette style!

PPS, DBG and steelhead case have the details since they are putting the tourney on.
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A West Fly pariah

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#555594 - 03/25/09 09:21 AM Re: Warning! Blog Contains Offensive Material [Re: Truco7mateo]
Uncle Fuzzy Moderator Offline
I'd love to come to the Gold Cup, but I believe it's the weekend after I return from a conference in Lewiston (first weekend in May). I don't think I can justify back-to-back trips to Idaho!
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aka Scott Richmond

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#555604 - 03/25/09 12:25 PM Re: Warning! Blog Contains Offensive Material [Re: Uncle Fuzzy]
Truco7mateo Offline
Did I mention the Owyhee river is only like an hour and 20 minutes from where the tourney is? grin
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A West Fly pariah

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#555722 - 03/26/09 07:56 AM Re: Warning! Blog Contains Offensive Material [Re: Truco7mateo]
DBG Offline
Enjoyed the read immensely. My only question is do you PRE-BAIT the water you are fishing with baguettes the day before ? Was just wondering if those bugle mouths need to acquire a taste for your local brand ? Just kidding Uncle Fuzzy but as I am sure you know those hard core carpers in Europe take great pride in their baiting a body of water skills. Those Euros have a carp angling culture that rivals our countries hard core Bass anglers!
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"Size matters with Tarpon,Trout,Carp,Bluegill,Bass and Boobs"

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#556797 - 04/02/09 06:30 PM Re: Warning! Blog Contains Offensive Material [Re: DBG]
Chironimo Offline
Huh! I'm not offended but flabbergasted(in a good way)You mean as a fly fisherman we can also have fun? As I rub my head in an attempt to absorb all of this, carp, bait,,, hmmmm, wow,what does it all mean? I mean this site is THE PLACE for those who fly fish in the lower 48. And here is our alpha male condoning having fun in a manner that flies in the face of everything we have come to zealously abstain from, or not,,,. So what I gain from all this is(Bill & Ted) be excellent to each other and yourself, as long is it is fun and in good keeping with ethical stances that we all strive to adhere to.

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#558618 - 04/16/09 10:12 PM Re: Warning! Blog Contains Offensive Material [Re: Chironimo]
Stan Wright Offline
Come over to the Dark Side, Luke.
Use the bait.
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"Why let the truth stand in the way of a good fish story."

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